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Now It's Personal: John McCain's Attack On My First Amendment Rights

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I really don't need another reason to strongly oppose John McCain for President, but now I have a really, really big one because this affects me personally I've just learned that because of McCain-Feingold, county republican parties in Georgia are being told they should no longer allow any federal campaign materials, such as flyers signs, buttons, and bumper stickers at their headquarters or festival and fair booths for display and distribution.

I happen to be the chairman of my county's Republican Party here in southern Georgia. One of the main functions of the party is to do all we can to support our candidates on all levels, from president on down to school board member. Two years ago, for example, we used county party funds to set up an information booth at a local community festival where we allowed Republican candidates to leave brochures and campaign bumper stickers, buttons, pens, literature, etc. for distribution to people who wanted them. This has been a pretty common practice all over the country ever since I can remember, and it's a general service to folks who want information on the candidates and/or who want to display their support for one candidate or another.

I remember as a college student in 1968 taking an hour long bus ride with two transfers from St. Paul, Minnesota to downtown Minneapolis so I could pick up Nixon literature and buttons at the state Republican headquarters.

Sounds pretty benign, eh? Well under McCain-Feingold, that has been deemed to be a violation of law and subject to a fine (how big a fine, I haven't yet found out). A friend of mine is a grassroots Republican activist in Florida before she moved to Georgia a couple of years ago. Recently, she was talking to a friend of hers in Florida who told her the county chairman had been advised by lawyers from the state party that they could no longer display any campaign literature from the presidential candidates, or candidates for Congress for that matter.

Why? Because McCain-Feingold limits the amount of money a party organization can spend on federal candidates to $5,000. Since each county party is considered a branch of the state party, that limit is reached pretty fast, so the safe approach is for the state to say counties shouldn't spend any money on federal campaigns. The Florida state GOP has determine that since county headquarters and fair booths are paid for by contributions, it constitutes a contribution to a campaign, and is therefore a violation of law.

When I first heard about it, I thought, "That's Florida. The party there is just taking things too far." But just a few minutes ago, I got a call from my congressional district chairman that he will not be allowing any literature from federal candidates at our district convention in April and, being a member of the state central committee, he's going to suggest that also applies to the state convention. He also said that I need to be careful not to spend a dime on any federal race, including buying lunch for a candidate or someone from their campaign. I kid you not!

Now you Democrats better pay attention because this applies to your party as well. In fact, I doubt that very many Democratic or Republican Party officials had any suspicion that McCain-Feingold was going to outlaw what has been a normal political activity of the parties since the early 1800s – getting out information about their candidates.

There are several cases working their way through the federal court system that will likely reach the Supreme Court. In fact the Court has already struck down part of the law that was used to keep Wisconsin Right to Life from running ads directed at pro-abortion candidates. But for now, most of this despicable bill, authored by the probably presidential nominee of the Republican Party, is still in effect, and it's directly affecting me… a non-paid volunteer, grassroots party activist.

Can anyone explain to me how prohibiting poltical parties from displaying candidate literature stops corruption? Am I the only one that believes this is a heavy-handed (dare I say fascist) attack on legitimate, harmless political activities?

McCain has made it very clear he will use the power of government to stifle free speech and purely legitimate political activities. I sincerely believe he would also gladly sign a "fairness doctrine" law from Congress so it will shut down Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and any other talk show host who criticized him this year. Think I'm going to far? Think about it. After all, he probably blames talk radio for stopping his the immigration amnesty bill.

Conservative friends of mine who've hopped on the McCain bandwagon think I should vote for him in the general because at least he'd better than Senators Clinton or Obama. Right now, I'm not so sure.

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{"commentId":1429206,"authorDomain":"headinthegame"}

campaign finance reform is a moniker for--let's entrench the incumbents, make it harder for challengers, and strip people of the constitutional rights. Where does Ron Paul stand on this, anyone know?

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  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Sat Feb 2, 2008 2:58 PM EST
{"commentId":1429310,"authorDomain":"JoulesBeef"}

it's also a way to get the influence out of politics
federal funded elections is the way to go.

as for ron paul.. he is against mccain feigngold but supports reform to get the money out of gov, in the form of earmarks and other favors performed for these large campaign donations..

i see and agree with a lot of ron pauls complaints and your critisms but the fact is, we cant continue with status quo, mccain fiegngold may not be the ultimate answer but IMO it is far betetr than status quo.. as A the incumbants win already mainly do to how lucrative committee assignements are doled out.
B incumbants already know all the lobbiests and have their personal phone numbers.. so they are more likely and have a greater ability to raise up campaign cash, unlike your "challengers"
C; ron paul got most of his money from little donations and has more money than any of the candidates and all that he has done has been legal under mccain fiengold.

I get your complaints and pauls, but IMO mccain fiegngold is better than status quo..
we all know we have to do somethign about the money influence in gov.. and every few years this crap comes up and every few years, we do nothing.
peopel find complaints in every fix.. i am sure you an find a couple in "federal funding" but the facts are.. status quo isnt working and at the very least mccain fiengold is a nice change fromt he status quo of screaming about finace reforma nd then doing absolutely nothing about it.

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  • 4 votes
#1.1 - Sat Feb 2, 2008 3:31 PM EST
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{"commentId":1429805,"authorDomain":"firsty"}
Can anyone explain to me how prohibiting poltical parties from displaying candidate literature stops corruption? Am I the only one that believes this is a heavy-handed (dare I say fascist) attack on legitimate, harmless political activities?

because candidates who appeal to voters not attached to parties wealthy enough to spend more than $5,000 on campaign literature become even more disenfranchised than they already are.

lots of people wonder why the two-party system in america has been able to so completely own, control and therefore manipulate the political process. it is because other, smaller political parties, parties which might be considered "start-ups," are working with limited capital. having a cap on spending applies to each party equally.

it's a little disingenuous to go after this particular piece of legislation and twist it into an attack on freedom of speech if it comes from anyone who's supported in any way the kinds of legislation which actually ARE attacks on that freedom, from the PATRIOT act to the national ID to the no-fly list being comprised of individuals whose only "crime" was to write a book critical of the bush administration.

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  • 4 votes
Reply#2 - Sat Feb 2, 2008 7:27 PM EST
{"commentId":1431328,"authorDomain":"firsty"}
Hey, hanging a sign in a headquarters window is even forbidden. Does that makesense?

it's forbidden if the total attached expense is over $5k, right? do some creative accounting. use the laws your party has created to make capitalism work for ya.

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  • 2 votes
#2.1 - Sun Feb 3, 2008 1:31 PM EST
{"commentId":1431485,"authorDomain":"cuttyscomments"}

Again... that $5K applies to the WHOLE STATE, not just my county. And what they're taking into account is not the cost of the sign, but the cost of the facilitie in which that sign is displayed.

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  • 2 votes
#2.2 - Sun Feb 3, 2008 2:32 PM EST
{"commentId":1434131,"authorDomain":"firsty"}
Again... that $5K applies to the WHOLE STATE, not just my county. And what they're taking into account is not the cost of the sign, but the cost of the facilitie in which that sign is displayed.

but, again, this is a limit, not a ban. i would imagine that for every person like you who feels restricted by the limit, there are 10 who are grateful for it. this isnt a ban on freedom of speech. this is a way to level the playing field. the reason should be clear — compare the amount of money spent in each state by each candidate for each primary and the correlation between ad money and votes is pretty clear.

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  • 3 votes
#2.3 - Mon Feb 4, 2008 11:15 AM EST
{"commentId":1434392,"authorDomain":"cuttyscomments"}

In essense it is a ban, because the State Party is telling us county organizations we can't do perfectly harmless political activities -- let candidates leae their stuff at our headquarters or fair booth -- because it somehow could be construed as a political expenditure by McCain Feingold.

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  • 1 vote
#2.4 - Mon Feb 4, 2008 12:24 PM EST
{"commentId":1434869,"authorDomain":"firsty"}

i dont get how a limit is a ban. it sounds like the state parties need to do a better job at managing their expenses if they cant get done what they want to get done within the boundaries of the law.

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  • 2 votes
#2.5 - Mon Feb 4, 2008 2:42 PM EST
{"commentId":1435849,"authorDomain":"rmckinney"}

Your missing the point. I AM and FEC candidate and what this means is I cannot leave any material at a GOP office nor can I bring ANY material to a county or district meeting. Big Deal? Well a well funded candidate can use air time out the wazoo but a grassroot guy is limited. Going to a county meeting, a district meeting, or standing at a fairbooth is a cheap way to meet people and it means I have to show up. This limit basically means someone working on a budget is limited but those that have tons of money are free to spend it on advertising.

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  • 1 vote
#2.6 - Mon Feb 4, 2008 8:11 PM EST
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{"commentId":1429895,"authorDomain":"cuttyscomments"}
because candidates who appeal to voters not attached to parties wealthy enough to spend more than $5,000 on campaign literature become even more disenfranchised than they already are

You misunderstand what's going on. The candidates, not the parties pay for the literature, buttons, signs, bumper stckers, etc. All the parties have done is allow them to drop them off so interested folks stopping by can pick them up. The reasoning is that just displayiing campagn literature is an expenditure because the parties pay for the facilities' rent, uilities, furnishings. That's considered donations to federal campaigns. It's just rdiculous, and in my opinion a major violation of the first amendment to say that a POLITICAL PARTY can no longer visibibly display any campaign materials for candidates of THAT PARTY! It's insane, and scary. Hey, hanging a sign in a headquarters window is even forbidden. Does that makesense?

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  • 4 votes
Reply#3 - Sat Feb 2, 2008 8:13 PM EST
{"commentId":1429913,"authorDomain":"cuttyscomments"}

Prohibiting county parties from displaying campaign stuff from Republican candidates is like saying a Coca Cola plant can't have any signs, vending machines, or anything with the company logo on it on display at the plant.

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  • 4 votes
Reply#4 - Sat Feb 2, 2008 8:24 PM EST
{"commentId":1430226,"authorDomain":"juno"}

It was only a day or two ago that I said I would vote for him in the general, if my choice was him or a dem.

Here's what my "paranoid" lil'voice is telling me: Rip the Bandaid off fast . . . Vote for Obama, let him set up his ideal nation, and to hell with this slow slide. . . .

A friend of mine has given me hope that McCain will wane. I sure hope he's right.

I am sorry to hear that this M-F bill (hey, apropos even!) has hit you. The Greenies should be happy, though, less paper used, eh?

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  • 1 vote
Reply#5 - Sat Feb 2, 2008 10:52 PM EST
{"commentId":1430613,"authorDomain":"cuttyscomments"}

No... won't save the trees. You misunderstand. It doesn't stop the printing of materials. What it does do is forbid Republican Party HQs from being allowed to pass out campaign materials for federal candidates. The campaigns can still do it, have their own HQs, etc. But party organizations can no longer have them on site. In fact, some county organizations are even interpreting that to mean no signs can be displayed in the windows! It's an absolute disgrace All in the name of fighting "corruption."

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  • 2 votes
#5.1 - Sun Feb 3, 2008 7:23 AM EST
{"commentId":1435097,"authorDomain":"juno"}

Okay, so if I have a stack of info, and leave it at your station, then I would have to take your overhead into account for my own?

Does that apply to all places where this literature might be found, in say a bar?

No tree saving?? And, here I was trying to find an up-side . . .

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  • 2 votes
#5.2 - Mon Feb 4, 2008 3:57 PM EST
{"commentId":1435475,"authorDomain":"cuttyscomments"}

That's the way it's being interpreted by my Congressional District Chairman. He's using our neighboring state of Florida as an example.

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  • 1 vote
#5.3 - Mon Feb 4, 2008 5:50 PM EST
{"commentId":1435831,"authorDomain":"juno"}

humm, sounds asinine to me.

That would be like one small business who leaves business cards in another, getting to claim deductions based on the other's cost of business.

'round and 'round we go.

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  • 1 vote
#5.4 - Mon Feb 4, 2008 8:03 PM EST
{"commentId":1448489,"authorDomain":"jdoyle"}
What it does do is forbid Republican Party HQs from being allowed to pass out campaign materials for federal candidates.

You keep say this sort of thing as if the Democrats are not under the same limits.
Its a good way to keep big money from running the election.

* The increased role of soft money in campaign financing, by prohibiting national political party committees from raising or spending any funds not subject to federal limits, even for state and local races or issue discussion; * The proliferation of issue ads, by defining as "electioneering communications" broadcast ads that name a federal candidate within 30 days of a primary or caucus or 60 days of a general election, and prohibiting any such ad paid for by a corporation (including non-profit issue organizations such as Right to Life or the Environmental Defense Fund) or paid for by an unincorporated entity using any corporate or union funds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipartisan_Campaign_Reform_Act

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  • 1 vote
#5.5 - Fri Feb 8, 2008 11:11 AM EST
{"commentId":1451369,"authorDomain":"cuttyscomments"}

You're right, Dems are under the same constrictions. So what? How does stopping political parties from allowing their candidates to distribute campaign materias through their facilities stop big money from running the election? And, by the way, McCain Feingold hasn't stopped Soros-funded groups from their relentless attacks on Republicans, or union activities in support of Democrats, or the Washington Post, or the New York Times.

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    #5.6 - Sat Feb 9, 2008 7:24 AM EST
    {"commentId":1451385,"authorDomain":"jdoyle"}
    And, by the way, McCain Feingold hasn't stopped

    Its not suppose to stop anything; its suppose to control how much.

    You admit it is not direct solely at the Republicans, so stop the complaining and get on with your life.

    Soros-funded groups from their relentless attacks on Republicans, or union activities in support of Democrats, or the Washington Post, or the New York Times.

    I would like some examples of these so called Soros groups and the others you mention were not set up as Democratic institutions.

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    • 1 vote
    #5.7 - Sat Feb 9, 2008 7:33 AM EST
    {"commentId":1451440,"authorDomain":"cuttyscomments"}

    jdoyle: Obviously this back and forth between us isn't going to sway the other. I happen to believe that McCain Feingold not only restricts free speech, but it does not really limit big money... all it died was redirect that money into 527s.

    As for your question about Sorus-funded groups, ccording to Wikipedia, in 2004 two out of the top three 527s fit in that category: America Coming Together spent $76 million and Joint Victory Campaign 2004 spent $72 million. The third, Media Fund, wa set up by long time Democrat operative Howard Ickes and spent $54 million. In fact, 7 out of the top 10 527s were liberal/democratic leaning groups.

    And, of course, the Wasnington Post, New York Times, CNN and other liberl shillls can attack consrvatives all they want without any restrictions. Campaigns have limited funds, and outside groups can't nae candidates in an ad 30 days before an election.

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      #5.8 - Sat Feb 9, 2008 8:16 AM EST
      {"commentId":1451451,"authorDomain":"jdoyle"}
      And, of course, the Wasnington Post, New York Times, CNN and other liberl shillls can attack consrvatives all they want without any restrictions.

      Here is where you are dead wrong: none of those are liberal; they are big corporations which are conservative. One proof of that was the the way they have let Bush rampage with very little criticism and how they beat the war drums for Iraq, never really questioning anything ,when Bush was lying to everyone.

      I see you left out the Swifites from 2004.

      All this showed me is that the rules haven't been enforced and since the Republicans were running all facets of government then, maybe you need to take it up with them.

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      • 1 vote
      #5.9 - Sat Feb 9, 2008 8:24 AM EST
      {"commentId":1451845,"authorDomain":"cuttyscomments"}

      Well, obviously you're either fooling yourself or trying to fool me. Of course all those media I mntioned are biased to the left. Several non-partisan media groups, includng the Annenberg Foundation, have documented it, as hs liberal Demorat Bernie Goldbert in his book Bias. Ownership means nothing if they let the news and editorial staff do what they want. Continuing this discussion is pretty much non-productive because neither of us is going to change the other's mind, but I do want to end with this: the Swifties are waaaaaay down the list... at seventh, spending just under $17 million, compared to 148 million for the two Soros funded groups. JUst not comparison, period.

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      • 1 vote
      #5.10 - Sat Feb 9, 2008 11:33 AM EST
      {"commentId":1452313,"authorDomain":"jdoyle"}

      Bernie Goldberg is anything but a liberal, O'Reilly even likes him.

      Again those Main stream media outlets you mentioned did nothing to question the rush to war even though there were many unanswered questions for one reason: war sells and like all conservative outlets money is everything.

      Who cares where the Swifites rank: they were just a bunch of lying fanatics who put party politics before the truth and smeared a war hero. The fact remains the money goes both ways.

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      • 1 vote
      #5.11 - Sat Feb 9, 2008 2:21 PM EST
      {"commentId":1454222,"authorDomain":"cuttyscomments"}

      We just have to agree to disagree.

      {"commentId":1454222,"threadId":"212957","contentId":"1273551","authorDomain":"cuttyscomments"}
        #5.12 - Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:03 AM EST
        {"commentId":1454259,"authorDomain":"jdoyle"}
        We just have to agree to disagree.

        I agree

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          #5.13 - Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:36 AM EST
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          {"commentId":1430283,"authorDomain":"galley-cat"}

          Cutty, just tonight I've been trolling the internet researching quotes from nazis and fascists from the Hitler era that sound like they could've been spoken by Bush himself or others of his ilk (I plan to write an article on this soon here on the 'Vine.) Check out this quote by Joseph Goebbels: "Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play." In other words, a fascist leader (Bush and his kind--McCain) will always strive to control free speech in all its forms.

          I hope to God McCain does NOT get elected, because I fear he will bring on four more years of the same deep, dark vortex that our country has been spiraling downward in since 2000.

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          • 4 votes
          Reply#6 - Sat Feb 2, 2008 11:37 PM EST
          {"commentId":1452401,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

          How are you dealing w/Hillary calling MSNBC and complain about a very bad taste comment about her daughter?

          Stalin era in the USA if our Evita is President?

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          • 1 vote
          #6.1 - Sat Feb 9, 2008 2:44 PM EST
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          {"commentId":1430306,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

          Cutty,

          In Maine Romney won but Snowe and Collins endorsed McCain.

          The administration of McCain is shaping with a quid-pro-quo. The US Senators endorse McCain and McCain will overlook the barrels of pork.

          I watched those confirmation committees and how each Senator is asking the favorite subject or program from the nominee.

          From now on I will abstain to make comments about Cindy McCain, she suffered a stroke in 2004 and that's enough for me for feeling sorry for her. Living w/McCain could not be easy w/his temper.

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          • 1 vote
          Reply#7 - Sat Feb 2, 2008 11:55 PM EST
          {"commentId":1430621,"authorDomain":"cuttyscomments"}

          Deter -

          I don't know if you've heard or read, but Georgia's two Senators and faux-Republican Gov. Sonny Perdue (remember he was a D until 2002) endorsed McCain last night. It's official, McCain is the Republican Establishment candidate. Down with the Establishment. Viva la revolucion! Vote Mitt you conservatives.

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          • 3 votes
          #7.1 - Sun Feb 3, 2008 7:29 AM EST
          {"commentId":1430708,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

          I have a problem with the Quid Pro Quo of the Senators endorsing McCain.

          Thanks for the head up. I will check the AJC right now. I will not endorse them when their reelection come. Easy.

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          • 3 votes
          #7.2 - Sun Feb 3, 2008 8:29 AM EST
          {"commentId":1430742,"authorDomain":"cuttyscomments"}

          I am a Republican Party County Chairman, but I can tell you this, Chambliss better not count on me to have a yard sign in my yard, bumper sticker on my car or button on my chest. I know of at least one Chambliss county chairman who's going to resign. I think there will be a lot more. I probably will still vote for him, though. Vernon Jordan and the other D's are just too scary.

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          • 2 votes
          #7.3 - Sun Feb 3, 2008 8:48 AM EST
          {"commentId":1430744,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

          cutty,

          Chambliss is for reelection - well, his brotherhood with the other Senators is going to cost him to go to the benches.

          From the AJC:

          Said Sadie Fields, chairman of the Georgia Christian Alliance:

          "We honor both our senators and hold them in high esteem, but this is disappointing."

          Fields predicted that the impact would be felt at the grassroots level. "It just takes the winds out of their sails."

          Four Georgia congressmen who support Romney held a conference call on Saturday, in which they dismissed the endorsement of McCain by Isakson and Chambliss as an example of Senate "clubiness."

          "The Senate's a universe of 100 people. They almost seem to be removed from their constituents. I don't know if they sprinkle them with some sort of dust or whatever," said U.S. Rep. Lynn Westmoreland of Coweta County.

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          • 1 vote
          #7.4 - Sun Feb 3, 2008 8:49 AM EST
          {"commentId":1431440,"authorDomain":"cliffpotter"}

          Cutty - Sounds to me as if you are becoming a non-establishment Republican. Assuming that Ann Coulter is to be believed, let's assume that we are all three non-establishment people. Obama is surely the establishment in many ways, not Clinton. And McCain is now the establishment candidate, not Romney.

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          • 3 votes
          #7.5 - Sun Feb 3, 2008 2:18 PM EST
          {"commentId":1431497,"authorDomain":"cuttyscomments"}

          Cliff, that's definitely true on the Republican side. The GOP establishment, primarily elected officials in Washington and governors from around the state, are now all pretty much backing Mac. Back in 1976, the Republican establishment backed Ford, and I was for Reagan, so I guess I've gone full circle in 32 years! Back in the anti-establishment column.

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          • 3 votes
          #7.6 - Sun Feb 3, 2008 2:35 PM EST
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          {"commentId":1430508,"authorDomain":"joshleguern"}

          Cutty,

          This is a valid criticism of McCain, in fact, it's one of the only valid criticisms of McCain. McCain-Feingold's intentions were good, and some of the provisions are good. I think setting limits to how much individuals can support a candidates is generally supported as most people are not able to donate $2,600 to their candidate anyway. I think the aspects of the law that block free speech will be struck down by the supreme court.

          What I don't understand is the overlook of Romney's record on nearly every single issue. He has had election year conversions to make himself look good to conservatives. It's why I do not trust his integrity and it's why I am supporting McCain.

          {"commentId":1430508,"threadId":"212957","contentId":"1273551","authorDomain":"joshleguern"}
          • 1 vote
          Reply#8 - Sun Feb 3, 2008 2:58 AM EST
          {"commentId":1430767,"authorDomain":"cuttyscomments"}
          What I don't understand is the overlook of Romney's record on nearly every single issue. He has had election year conversions to make himself look good to conservatives. It's why I do not trust his integrity and it's why I am supporting McCain

          Please document those flips on "nearly every single issue." I can count two: abortion, which he switched on years ago as governor, and illegal immigration.

          Now let's look at McCain. He now says he favors a fence, which he opposed last year. He now says he wants to extend the Bush tax cuts he voted against... twice. That's flipping isn't it? He's also rather duplicitous on the pro-life issue: he supported stem cell research and he wrote a "friend of the court" favoring the muzzling of Wisconsin Right to Life. And an issue I wish he would flip on, the carbon tax which will cost each consumer at least $1000 a year and virtually no impact on global warming, he's standing firm on.

          Sorry, Romney already got my vote last Monday in Georgia's early voting.

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          • 3 votes
          #8.1 - Sun Feb 3, 2008 9:01 AM EST
          {"commentId":1430791,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

          I will write my Senators to start looking for another Republican to replace them.

          This "club" thing hit the nail in the head.

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          • 3 votes
          #8.2 - Sun Feb 3, 2008 9:19 AM EST
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          {"commentId":1430547,"authorDomain":"cliffpotter"}

          Cutty - This is a completely crazy law, with a ton of problems. And this is the type of reform that Obama wants to increase. Brother.

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          Reply#9 - Sun Feb 3, 2008 4:02 AM EST
          {"commentId":1452382,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

          Still McCain hasn't closed the deal.

          Huckabee is going ahead w/195? Delegates.

          Romney suspended his campaign.

          And....the President did not endorse anyone.

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          • 1 vote
          Reply#10 - Sat Feb 9, 2008 2:40 PM EST
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